This episode of The Spear is the second in a two-part conversation with Larry Perino, Lee VanArsdale, and Kyle Lamb—three men who took part in the Battle of Mogadishu. The battle would become widely known as the subject of journalist Mark Bowden’s book Black Hawk Down—and the movie by the same name. But this conversation offers a unique opportunity to hear our guests describe not just the battle, but what they were thinking and feeling at key moments of the intense fight.

If you haven’t yet heard the previous episode—the first part of this conversation—it’s worth listening to first. Once you do, come back and listen to the rest of the story. Together, the two episodes represent an incredible, first-person account of the Battle of Mogadishu.

We hope you enjoy the episode, which you can listen to below, and be sure to subscribe to The Spear on iTunes, Stitcher, or wherever you get your podcasts!

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